Andrew Williams at the UCC (http://ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) said: ..."is a 'real' computer (makes lots of noise and has blinkenlights), and runs a reasonably standard commercial unix that doesn't have hundreds of demented hackers churning out major kernel revisions every 36 seconds to fix glaring holes introduced by other demented hackers when they ran out of Jolt..." Nick Bannon said: "Nothing matters, and what if it did?" (Apathy to apathy ::-) )